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Ubuntu Server blog: Server Team 20080826 meeting minutes

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- 1 days ago

Here are the minutes of the meeting. They can also be found online
with the irc logs here.

Ubuntu VM builder

soren is preparing a new upload of his python rewrite of ubuntu-vm-builder. nijaba offered to write a short tutorial about ubuntu-vm-builder once it’s available in the archive. sommer mentionned that the virtualization section of the server guide should also be updated.

ACTION: nijaba to write a tutorial about the new ubuntu-vm-builder.

ACTION: sommer to update the virtualization section of the server guide with references to the new ubuntu-vm-builder.

Review ServerGuide for Intrepid

sommer updated the openldap section to cover cn=config. Sections that have been updated are marked with “Ready for Review” on the wiki page. sommer also mentioned that doc.ubuntu.com is up-to-date. He added that reading through all the sections and update any path names, package names, etc that may have changed with intrepid would be helpful.

ACTION: jjesse to update the apache section of the server guide.

Tomcat6 server stack support

Koon announced that tomcat 6.0.18 had been uploaded to fix a few security issues that were disclosed a few weeks ago. He is waiting for feedback. He has written all relevant MIRs to get tomcat6 moved to main and then have a task added to tasksel.

mathiaz asked about dependencies pulled in by tomcat6. Koon has been working on reducing them and filed bugs for most of them. He is asking for sponsoring. Some of them may be controversial and he’d like to ask doko about it.

ACTION: Koon to write a post about tomcat6 for ubuntuserver blog.

ACTION: mathiaz to sponsor Koon patches for non-controversial packages.

UFW Package Integration

jdstrand reported that the ufw portion was basically done. The Roadmap has been updated with a list of packages to be integrated with ufw. Help in that area is welcomed.

Rails and Rubygems

macd said that the passenger package on REVU was in good shape. He also started a discussion about the rubygems changes. If the passenger changes are made and the rubygems changes that were spoken of are made rails will be in good shape for intrepid.

Agree on next meeting date and time

Next meeting will be on Tuesday, September 2nd at 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.

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Quote: HOT ON THE heels of its denials that anything is wrong with the G92 and G94s comes another PCN that shows the G92s and G92b are being changed for no reason. Yup, the problems that are plaguing G84 and G86 are the same that affect seemingly all 65nm and now 55nm Nvidia parts.
This PCN is very similar to the one linked above, and the formatting is almost almost exactly the same, so we won't cover all the details, just the pertinent points. This one is much more important, it confirms that the problems are not confined to the 65nm products. Since Nvidia told us the last one was unimportant and refused to give it to us, we didn't bother asking this time, we just took notes when they were shown to us at a recent conference.
It is titled "G92 GPU Desktop Products" with a subtitle of "Change Bump Material from High Pb to Eutectic Solder", with a date of June 2008 and a number PCN0346A on it. Page 2 has the "PCN Submit Date" of June 13, 2008, " Planned Implementation Date" of July 28, 2008, and a "Proposed First Ship Date for change" of August 17, 2008. Short story here, if you have a G92 or G92b purchased before next week, you likely have a lemon. Remember, these are chip ship dates, not boards in stores.
The next few chunks, "Change Category" and others are the same, "Class 1", given to everyone under the sun, and OMGWTFBBQ. That is kind of a 'well duh' thing, and is exactly the same as the G86 part PCN.
The big one is the affected parts list. It clearly states that not only are 65nm parts bad, but 55nm ones are as well. The entire list of affected parts is as follows.

Small batch, my arse
Lets see, what do we have here? It looks like they changed the bumping material on the 55nm parts a month and a day after introduction. Yup, no reason for that at all, nothing to see here either.
The next part is a description of what we already knew and told you about on the last PCN story. To use their words, "Nvidia will transition from using high-lead solder (95%Pb/5%Sn) to eutectic solder (63%Sn/37%Pb) flip-chip bump material for the G92 product family. During the transition period Nvidia will be supplying both high-lead and eutectic bump until inventory is depleted. No other materials are being changed."
This makes complete sense, and it is followed by a picture of a modern chip with the bumps and underfill pointed out.
The reasons are the same, supply and robustness, as is the impact statement. Same very curious wording. Nothing new, just bad news.
The "Implementation and Qualification Plan" however does have some new news. It says, "Nvidia has previously qualified numerous products using eutectic solder bumps using the same bump suppliers, substrate vendors, underfill and assembly sites as this device. Qualification data is available upon request." This information backs up our previous assertions that this is quite widespread among all their 65nm and 55nm products. Qual data is available "Now," it says, and samples on July 1, 2008.
Page 4 has the same diagram, and indicates that the eutectic bumps are marked the same way as the G86 ones, with a trailing R on the lot #. Because it is etched on the die, you have no way of knowing which one you have until you take it apart, pull the heatsink, clean off the thermal paste, and read the laser-wielding chicken scratchings. Most stores won't let you do this, and NV is going to be mixing the dies up until they burn off inventory. This means you won't be safe until long after the card is irrelevant, say later in Q4.
The "Recommended Action" and contact info is the same as the G86 PCN, and the Revision history has an Initial Release date of 06/13/08. There is no blank page 5 on this one, it is just the disclaimer that was on page 6 of the last one.
While Nvidia is playing these PCNs off as nothing to worry about, they are. The fact that the defective chip problem extends to the G92 line like we said earlier is bad enough. It pretty much confirms that the problem is the same as the "Small batch of EOL laptops parts only given to HP," that they warned about in July. The bigger problem is that it affects the newer 55nm parts as well. Those were supplanted in a number of days you could almost count to on your fingers and toes if you grew up in a small town in Appalachia, never a good sign. In fact, qual samples were available before the 9800GTX+ actually launched.
It is hard to overstate how bad this is. Basically every 65nm and 55nm Nvidia part appears to be defective. It is not a question of yes or no, but how defective each line is, and what the failure rate for each one is. We are hearing of early failure rates in the teens per cent for 8800GTs and far higher for 9600GTs, so this is not a quibble over split hairs.
To make matters worse, Nvidia has a mound of unsold defective parts that they are going to bleed out into the channel along side of the (hopefully) fixed parts. As a buyer, you have no way of knowing which one you are getting, and it looks like Nvidia isn't keen on helping you figure it out either, that would cost too much.
Until Nvidia comes fully clean on this fiasco, lists all the defective parts, and orders boxes clearly marked, you can't say anything other than just avoid them. Then again, since doing the right thing would likely bankrupt them, we wouldn't hold your breath for it to happen.
Oh Snap

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...55nm-parts-bad

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ATOUT PIOL 2008-2009

DANSE AFRICAINE METISSEE

Cours hebdomadaires à CADALEN dans le Tarn

Une ancienne ferme située entre Albi et Gaillac .
Depuis 14 ans la ferme de Piol s'est métamorphosée,
l'étable se transforme en salle de danse, les pâturages en camping, ceci dans un environnement enchanteur
propice au calme, à la convivialité, combiné à la
découverte de l'expression dansée avec pour maître mots «faire plaisir».

Avec Chantal Tichané

Pour petits ou grands, l'enseignement de Chantal TICHANE prime sur la qualité d'expression .
"Pour ce faire , passionnée de pédagogie elle emprunte multitude de chemins pour nous atteindre visant à maintenir l'élève gourmand de découverte: de la percussion corporelle en passant par le clown théâtre , le chant, la danse hip-hop, la danse contemporaine , les
claquettes, la danse afro cubaine ...
que de sources de rebondissements! Elle nous parle d'images, de formes, de couleurs, d'intentions dans lesquelles la danse va puiser sa force .En d'autres termes elle nous invite à ne jamais perdre notre âme d'enfant , c'est pour toutes ces raisons qu'auprès de Chantal la danse est accessible à tous .Rien ne serait possible sans l'ambiance dans laquelle elle nous fait "":
Convivialité, écoute, jeu où elle nous invite à prendre le temps
d'apprendre et d'échanger ....
Dans cette aventure et cette bonne humeur nous repoussons bien des limites!"

Le programme de la semaine

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