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Media Matters for America -
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On the November 18 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, amid reports that President-elect Barack
Obama has decided to nominate Clinton Justice Department veteran Eric Holder to be attorney
general, host Chris Matthews said, "This is what you do when you don't have elections. You simply
promote the people ... who had the deputy jobs. You could do this in any bureaucratic state, you
could do it in the old Soviet Union. ... You don't need elections for this crap." But in 2001,
responding to then President-elect George W. Bush's selection to his cabinet of veterans of prior
administrations, Matthews offered a very different assessment of such actions. Purporting to
quote "an NBC driver" on the January 3, 2001, edition of Hardball, Matthews said the
driver, a Vietnam veteran, is "like a lot of guys you meet," and said, "They want guys who've
been around and survived." Matthews then said of then-President elect George W. Bush's Cabinet
picks: "You've got it in this Cabinet. There's some real heavyweights in terms of experience."
At the time, Bush had nominated Donald Rumsfeld to be secretary of defense, the same position he
held under President Ford, and Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under George
H.W. Bush, to be secretary of state. He had also named Dick Cheney, defense secretary under
President George H.W. Bush, to be his running mate.
While Matthews raised the question of whether, in his Cabinet picks, Bush "risk[ed] being
overwhelmed by their maturity and veteran status," he did not suggest that Bush was mimicking
"the old Soviet Union" in selecting people who had served in previous administrations.
From the January 3, 2001, edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews (retrieved
from the Nexis news database):
MATTHEWS: Let's talk about this big fight over the Cabinet. First of all, it's -- the most
impressive Cabinet appointment in the world right now is -- is Colin Powell, your friend.
BILL BENNETT (secretary of education under President Reagan): Well, obviously...
MATTHEWS: Clearly.
BENNETT: ... hailed worldwide and everyone in America loves him.
MATTHEWS: Probably the most impressive Cabinet appointment since Jefferson or whatever back in
the early days of our republic. Do you think he might find his way into a vice-presidential
nomination in four years?
BENNETT: Sure he can. And who knows what Cheney wants to do? He could have found his way into a
presidential nomination. If you remember, some of us were encouraging...
MATTHEWS: But this will be the less -- this would be less dramatic. This would be a smooth
transition.
BENNETT: Yeah, this would be an easy transition. Exactly right.
MATTHEWS: And he -- I've been thinking about this overnight. The Bush people have a tremendous
ace in the hole. It's Colin Powell. He may run the next time. That ticket would be undefeatable.
BENNETT: Well, it's an ace in the hole for that. It's, also, an ace in the hole, I think, for
some serious issue of foreign policy. If we need an appeal to the nation, the president makes it.
Colin Powell can also speak and persuade a lot of people.
MATTHEWS: I had an NBC driver the other day, I was doing the TODAY show, and he said something
really powerful to me, like a lot of guys you meet. You know what he said? He said people -- and
he was in Vietnam for -- he said people like to be around veterans. They like to be with a guy
who's been there 10 months. They don't want to be surrounded by raw recruits, and...
BENNETT: That's right.
MATTHEWS: ... and guys that -- you know, just guys who were brought in -- grunts, as they were
called.
BENNETT: Right.
MATTHEWS: They want guys who've been around and survived. You've got it in this Cabinet. There's
some real heavyweights in terms of experience.
BENNETT: Yeah.
MATTHEWS: Does your guy, the president elect, risk being overwhelmed by their maturity and
veteran status? I mean, you've got Dick Cheney in the room. Don Rumsfeld, the former secretary of
Defense. You've got Colin Powell, a world hero. And you're the least...
BENNETT: Right.
MATTHEWS: ... impressive guy in the room.
BENNETT: Well, I don't think so, but very strong. I -- you know, when I went to a university
once, the president of the university told me if your department chairman -- there's only one
test for a good department chairman -- hire people whose -- who are -- whose light will shine
brighter than his, that's a secure guy. This is a very strong bunch of people. It's also -- and a
lot of people are somewhat surprised -- a conservative Cabinet. I mean, it's...
MATTHEWS: Very.
BENNETT: ... diverse and all this, but this is a very strong, conservative Cabinet.
From the November 18 edition of Hardball:
MATTHEWS: But first tonight, as President-elect Obama assembles his governing team, some of the
members of the new administration charged with change look awfully familiar. Joining me, MSNBC's
political analyst Pat Buchanan and American Prospect editor and author of Obama's
Challenge Robert Kuttner.
Pat, let's take a look at some of these faces. I mean, they are not the new kids on the block.
Eric Holder tonight, for attorney general. Hillary Clinton for secretary of state. Joe Lieberman
stays on as senator from Connecticut and prime member of the Democratic caucus. Look at this
list. We've got Lieberman on, [John] Podesta [co-chairman of Obama's transition team], [Rahm]
Emanuel [incoming White House chief of staff], Holder, Clinton -- the list goes on. I'm looking
for the new face. Pat?
BUCHANAN: Well, we're in -- look, we're in retread city, is what's going on. This is the Nixon --
I mean, the Clinton alumni association showing up here.
MATTHEWS: No, you're a Nixon alumni association.
BUCHANAN: I'm Nixon alumni. But you know, but Eric Holder is, I mean, he's a very competent, able
man, but the thing he's most famous for, as you mentioned, is a pardon -- Frank Rich's pardon,
which he expedited on behalf of Bill Clinton. He was going to run for mayor of D.C. He's as local
as you can get. I mean, I don't see anyone from outside, real change here. I mean, these people
are undeniably competent, but this is what you'd expect if someone else had won.
MATTHEWS: This is what you do when you don't have elections. You simply promote the people --
Robert Kuttner -- who had the deputy jobs. You could do this in any bureaucratic state, you could
do it in the old Soviet Union, do it anywhere you have a bureaucracy. You don't need to hold
elections to promote deputies to the top job when it comes time, right? You don't need elections
for this crap, do you? Robert?
KUTTNER: Well, I was disappointed --
MATTHEWS: You just keep promoting people from within in any old, tired bureaucracy. That's what
you do. You don't think. It's very Republican thinking, Pat, by the way.
By the way, he didn't pardon Frank Rich of The New York Times; he pardoned Marc Rich.
BUCHANAN: It was Marc Rich.
MATTHEWS: I know you've got Frank on your mind. But, uh -- just kidding. We all make mistakes
here.

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Media Matters for America -
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On the November 14 and 17 editions of MSNBC's Hardball, host Chris Matthews used reports
that President-elect Barack Obama might nominate Sen. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state to
"rehash" 1990s-era smears and scandals
involving the Clintons. For instance, Matthews invoked Linda Tripp, who was a central figure in
the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and hosted Rep. Dan Burton (R-IN), whom Matthews asked to discuss
the false accusation -- previously advanced by Burton -- that White House aide Vince Foster was
murdered. Matthews also hosted Vanity Fair's Christopher Hitchens, who has a history of
smearing the Clintons, including asserting that by "welling up,"
Hillary Clinton looked "sort of alternately soppy and bitchy."
On the November 17 edition of Hardball, Matthews said, "Leading off tonight: When I
first heard that the president-elect could pick Hillary Clinton as his secretary of state, my
impulse was trouble. The Clintons are drama. They have ambition and they also have a story to
tell, and to be just by themselves. Why, I asked, does Obama -- who has the nickname 'No drama
Obama' -- want to marry himself to drama?"
Burton was among the guests Matthews hosted to discuss the "varied consequences" of Obama's
potentially nominating Clinton. Matthews began his interview with Burton by stating: "Congressman
Burton, you're no fans of the Clinton. [sic] In fact, I think you think the Clintons had
something to do with killing Vince Foster. What do you say?" After Burton declined to comment,
Matthews repeatedly pressed him to "rehash" the topic. According to
The Washington Post, Burton "was so convinced that Vincent Foster was murdered that he
launched a private investigation and fired a gun in his back yard in an enactment of his theory
that the White House aide was shot."
Time
magazine and
Salon.com have published similar accounts of Burton's attempts to push the thoroughly refuted theory that Foster was murdered.
Later in the November 17 program, Matthews hosted Hitchens, who said of Clinton:
This is the woman whose foreign policy experience consists of making a fool of herself and
fabricating a story about Bosnia. This is the woman who, with her husband, have so many
connections -- fundraising connections overseas, Indonesia, China. Just look up the Senate report
on their fundraising activities, the people they have pardoned, the amazing brothers of hers who
nearly got the -- was it the nut monopoly in Kazakhstan or something farcical like that. Just
look it up. It's a ludicrous embarrassment for the president and for the country.
During the conversation, Time's Peter Beinart said, "I really don't think most people,
besides Chris, with all due respect, are really interested in rehashing all of the scandals of
the 1990s," to which Matthews replied: "No, no. It's a question of whether they're all coming
back, sir. That's the question. Rehashing or reliving is a bigger question. Do you want to relive
them all?"
In addition to his "alternately soppy and bitchy" comment, Hitchens has previously compared the Clintons to zombies,
vampires, and werewolves and has questioned Hillary Clinton's faith,
falsely claiming that "[s]he has never particularly mentioned it before." On November 18, MSNBC
repeatedly aired footage of Hitchens attacking Clinton the night before, including an MSNBC
Live segment anchored by David Shuster.
After discussing Clinton's potential nomination at length during the November 14 edition of
Hardball, Matthews said, "[H]ere's a blast from the past. Someone tracked down Linda
Tripp -- remember her? She's the woman who outed Monica [Lewinsky] and her strange deal with a
U.S. president -- to find out what Linda Tripp thinks about the new Democratic president. Tripp
says, quote, 'Obama possesses an instantly recognizable purity of soul that brought quite
unimaginable and long-awaited magic to the country, transforming red and blue states, quite
literally, into the color purple.' Actually, I like what she had to say, especially her read on
Obama's 'purity of soul.' "
As Media Matters for America noted, on November 14, Matthews also
hosted MSNBC political analyst Michelle Bernard, who said that if Clinton becomes secretary of
state, she will run a "parallel government," and Jennifer Donahue, political director of the New
Hampshire Institute of Politics, who suggested Clinton would try to "create only one term for
Barack Obama."
From the November 14 broadcast of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews:
MATTHEWS: Anyway, next: here's a blast from the past. Someone tracked down Linda Tripp --
remember her? She's the woman who outed Monica [Lewinsky] and her strange deal with a U.S.
president -- to find out what Linda Tripp thinks about the new Democratic president.
Tripp says, quote, "Obama possesses an instantly recognizable purity of soul that brought quite
unimaginable and long-awaited magic to the country, transforming red and blue states, quite
literally, into the color purple."
Actually, I like what she had to say, especially her read on Obama's "purity of soul."
Time for the "Big Number" tonight: Secretary of State or not, the Clinton connection certainly
doesn't seem to be a deal-breaker. According to thePolitico, 31 of the 47 people named
to transition jobs by Obama have ties to the Bill Clinton administration. The gang's all here, at
least for the transition. Thirty-one Clinton associates have been called into at least temporary
service by Team Obama -- tonight's "Big Number."
From the November 17 broadcast of Hardball:
MATTHEWS: Good evening. I'm Chris Matthews. Welcome to Hardball tonight from Los Angeles. Leading off tonight: When I first heard
that the president-elect could pick Hillary Clinton as his secretary of state, my impulse was
trouble. The Clintons are drama. They have ambition and they also have a story to tell, and to be
just by themselves. Why, I asked, does Obama -- who has the nickname "No drama Obama" -- want to
marry himself to drama?
My second thought was that Hillary Clinton really did her best for the Obama effort, that she
really did give an extraordinary speech in Denver, that her very soul seemed to be, at the end,
for his actual election. Finally, I thought, Obama really does want to be Abraham Lincoln and
assemble a team of rivals.
Last night on 60 Minutes, Barack Obama was asked if Hillary was on his short list for
secretary of state.
OBAMA [video clip]: She is somebody who I've needed advice and counsel from. She is one of the
most thoughtful public officials that we have. Beyond that, you're not getting anything out of
me.
MATTHEWS: Not much of a clue there. Much more on the possible pick of Hillary Clinton for
secretary of state and all its varied consequences, in a minute.
[...]
MATTHEWS: Congressman Burton, you're no fans of the Clinton. In fact, I think you think the
Clintons had something to do with killing Vince Foster. What do you say?
REP. DAN BURTON (R-IN): Well, I'm not gonna go back and rehash that again, Chris.
MATTHEWS: Well, rehash it for a minute, sir. You do --
BURTON: No, no, no.
MATTHEWS: -- believe they had something to do with it.
BURTON: No, I'll be glad to answer questions from you about --
MATTHEWS: Well, it does give me a sense --
BURTON: -- how tough she is and --
MATTHEWS: -- of what you think of the Clintons, that you won't even say they're free of a murder
charge. Won't you do that at least?
BURTON: Chris, I know you -- you want me to be controversial. Let me just say, she's a very
talented woman.
BURTON: No, you're the controversy, sir. Let me ask you this: Do you believe the Clintons are
innocent of any foul play with regard to the death of Vince Foster? Let's start from there and
we'll move on to your bona fides in this topic.
BURTON: Chris, you heard what I said. I'm not gonna go back and cover that ground again.
MATTHEWS: OK. Well, we just did.
[...]
MATTHEWS: OK. OK. Congressman -- Congressman Burton, should Bill Clinton be allowed to take money
in the world from any source while his wife's secretary of state?
BURTON: I don't think there's any rule that I know of that would prohibit him from giving
speeches --
MATTHEWS: You just can't --
BURTON: -- around the world and --
MATTHEWS: -- you're -- this is entrapment. You guys, like [former Secretary of State Henry]
Kissinger and [Sen.] Jon Kyl [R-AZ], can't wait for the Clintons to come aboard so they'll be pot
shots. You'll be shooting at them like cantaloupes. They will be your target zone again. You
can't wait, Congressman, to get them in the target zone, can you? Be honest.
BURTON: My -- our target zone will be --
MATTHEWS: You want them there.
BURTON: Our -- well, they were always entertaining. Let me just say this: Our target zone is
lowering taxes and keeping spending down and getting the economy moving again. And as far as the
Clintons concerned, if Barack Obama hires her to be his secretary of state, he's gonna have to
deal with her, and we're going to have to deal with Barack Obama and his policies, Chris. He's
going to --
MATTHEWS: What were you --
BURTON: -- be the boss.
MATTHEWS: What were you -- Congressman, what were you shooting in the backyard? Were they
cantaloupes or pineapples? What were they, you were shooting? Is it something to do with the
Vince Foster case?
BURTON: No, no. All right.
MATTHEWS: You were shooting at something.
BURTON: All right, Chris. I figured you'd want to go there again. I love you, man. I'm not gonna
talk about that.
MATTHEWS: OK. Well, I just wonder whether you're shooting fish in a barrel here. You can't wait
to get the Clintons in that -- look at you. You're laughing your butt off. You can't wait to get
the Clintons in the target zone.
[...]
MATTHEWS: What do you make of Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, Mr. Hitchens?
HITCHENS: Look, this is the woman who played the race card on Barack Obama. This is the woman
who, if you were for change that you can believe in -- whichever change it was -- you were voting
against. This is the woman whose foreign policy experience consists of making a fool of herself
and fabricating a story about Bosnia.
This is the woman who, with her husband, have so many connections -- fundraising connections
overseas, Indonesia, China. Just look up the Senate report on their fundraising activities, the
people they have pardoned, the amazing brothers of hers who nearly got the -- was it the nut
monopoly in Kazakhstan or something farcical like that. Just look it up. It's a ludicrous
embarrassment for the president and for the country. But it should even be discussed?
MATTHEWS: Well, why is he -- why is he -- look, we all know that Barack Obama's got a lot of
candlepower. He's a smart guy. He's politically adept. He won the presidential election as the
first African-American.
HITCHENS: Yeah.
MATTHEWS: He's gone over hurdles nobody thought anybody could do. And, yet, here he is with his
biggest news story since his election. Everybody's buzzing about it. Why would he let this
toothpaste out of the tube if he's not gonna do this thing?
HITCHENS: Well, he -- it's clear from what we've can glean that it's -- the job is hers if she
wants it.
MATTHEWS: Yeah.
HITCHENS: So it's Clinton re-do, not just Rahm Emanuel. Whatever this is, it's not change.
[...]
HITCHENS: We'd also like a full accounting from all the Chinese and Indonesian witnesses, who
were fugitives from justice rather than testifying in the last Clinton fundraising hearings.
MATTHEWS: Well, Marc Rich is still a problem.
HITCHENS: We need to know -- we need to know what happened to that money now.
BEINART: I really don't think most people, besides Chris, with all due respect, are really
interested in rehashing all of the scandals of the 1990s.
MATTHEWS: No, no. It's a question of whether they're all coming back, sir. That's the question.
Rehashing or reliving is a bigger question. Do you want to relive them all?
HITCHENS: Yeah. And who owes who for what? We now
need to know.
MATTHEWS: It's a good question.
From the 4 p.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on November 18:
SHUSTER: Julie [Menin, Women's Campaign Forum], I want to get your reaction in particular to
something that Christopher Hitchens said on Hardball last Friday about Hillary Clinton.
Watch.
HITCHENS [video clip]: This is the woman who played the race card on Barack Obama. This is the
woman who, if you were for change that you can believe in -- whichever change it was -- you were
voting against. This is the woman whose foreign policy experience consists of making a fool of
herself and fabricating a story about Bosnia.
SHUSTER: He goes on to say that Hillary Clinton's appointment would be a "ludicrous
embarrassment." Your reaction?

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young people, and the council leader, George Meehan./ppEarlier in the day Ed Balls, the secretary
of state for children, schools and families, unveiled new laws aimed at protecting vulnerable
children, but admitted: "None of the reforms I can introduce now can make good the evil that
happened to that little boy."/ppThe NSPCC called on the directors of children's services in 150
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in greatest danger by Christmas./pp"This is a key moment in child protection," said Wes Cuell,
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this country can be killed. The public needs reassurance that everything will now be done to
prevent another Baby P."/ppBut the pressure on individual social workers, effectively tied to their
desks by bureaucracy, reveals systemic problems in child protection. "Workers report being more
worried about missed deadlines than missed visits," said Professor Sue White, who is studying five
child protection departments for the University of Lancaster. "All the practitioners we interviewed
expressed frustration at the amount of time they are spending at the computer," she said. "The
system regularly takes up 80% of their day."/ppICS was launched "to improve outcomes for children
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argue made it easier for different officials to quickly pick up the details of complex cases. /ppIn
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the system "obscured the family context". The level of detail demanded by ticking boxes "sacrificed
the clarity that is needed to make documentation useful", it concluded./pp"If you go into a social
work office today there's no chatter, nobody is talking about the cases, it is just people tapping
at computers," said White. "This is no way to do this kind of work."/ppOne social worker
interviewed by White's team said: "I spend my day click- clicking and then I'll get an email from
someone else -say a fostering agency- asking for a bit more information on a child: 'Could we
please have a pen picture of the three children'. It's horrendous." "It's impossible to get a
picture of the child," said another. "It's all over the place on the computer system... That
coupled with the number of people involved in the case makes my life very difficult."/ppEileen
Monroe, an expert on child protection at the London School of Economics, said some local
authorities are petitioning the government to allow them to drop the system. "The programme is set
up to continually nag you, and the child's misery just doesn't nag as loudly"./ppThe Liberal
Democrat MP John Hemming is calling for an independent inquiry into the system./pp"Documents
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Media Matters for America -
1 days and 9 hours ago
Media have continued to respond to reports that President-elect Barack Obama is considering
naming Sen. Hillary Clinton secretary of state with the smear that she (or Bill Clinton) might
pursue her own agenda as secretary of state and not Obama's. For instance, in a November 17
post
on the Harper's blog Washington Babylon, Washington editor Ken Silverstein asserted that
Sen. Clinton "[i]s not a team player" and claimed that "Obama may wake up one day and discover
that Hillary has decreed a new 'Clinton Doctrine' of foreign policy."
Additionally, on the November 17 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, Atlanta
Journal-Constitution editorial page editor Cynthia Tucker speculated that Bill Clinton
"could be out there creating his own foreign policy on the side."
While Silverstein and Tucker suggested that naming Clinton secretary of state could create
problems, syndicated columnist Kathleen Parker suggested that one of the reasons Obama might make
the nomination is because Clinton could potentially cause problems for him if she stayed in the
Senate. On the November 17 edition of MSNBC Live, Parker said that "clearly, you know,
there are other reasons for Obama to select" Clinton as secretary of state, adding: "[H]e gets
her out of the Senate, gets her off of the continent."
Media Matters for America previously noted that several media figures
similarly speculated that Clinton would pursue her own agenda as secretary of state and not
Obama's, with at least one pundit speculating that she would attempt to set up a "parallel
government" while others speculated that Obama is considering the nomination because if Clinton
remains in the Senate, she poses a threat of challenging him for the nomination in 2012 and can
"mak[e] trouble" for him in the Senate.
From the 1 p.m. ET hour of the November 17 edition of MSNBC Live:
ANDREA MITCHELL (host): One of the things that we saw with Teddy Kennedy's return to the Senate
today is that Ted Kennedy is still in charge of health care in the Senate, another reason why
Hillary Clinton doesn't have that much leverage in the Senate, not enough seniority, and why it
might be very attractive to her to go to the State Department.
PARKER: Interesting timing, wasn't it? That --
MITCHELL: Very.
PARKER: -- Senator Kennedy shows up just as she's trying to decide this. Well, clearly, you know,
there are other reasons for Obama to select her and to -- I mean, she -- he gets her out of the
Senate, gets her off of the continent, and the benefit is that she and Bill might run in to each
other every now and then. That was very catty of me, wasn't it?
MITCHELL: But that's why we love you. Thank you so much for being with us.
PARKER: Thanks, Andrea.
From the November 17 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews:
MATTHEWS: Let's talk Lincoln history here, Team of Rivals. Let me go to Cynthia first.
Team of Rivals. This man, the new president, our president-elect, is very Lincoln-esque.
We've known that from the beginning. Does he really believe that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton
can be in the tent, in other words, total Obama-ites? Really rooting for his historic success,
and if so, how does he test that motive before making the final decision?
TUCKER: Well, certainly, he believes Senator Hillary Clinton can be in the tent.
Now, Hillary Clinton was never the Clinton that
Obama had to worry about most. She has still a long political career in front of her, which can
be very successful. She has everything to gain by cooperating with the Obama administration in
whatever position in which he wishes for her to serve. Secretary of state would be a great plum
appointment for her if indeed it has been offered.
But Bill Clinton is out there doing his own thing.
His financial ties are a problem. He brings his own drama -- that's a problem. And for heaven's
sake, he could be out there creating his own foreign policy on the side.
So, the difficulty for Obama is not Senator Hillary Clinton, and keeping her in the tent, but how
do you get her in the tent and then keep the former president under control as well?
From Ken Silverstein's November 17 blog
post, "Five Reasons Hillary Clinton Should Not Be Secretary of State," on his blog Washington
Babylon:
It looks like Barack Obama has offered Hillary Clinton the post of Secretary of State and she's
mulling over whether to take the job or not. Obama's apparent offer makes him look magnanimous
and delights Hillary Clinton's former backers, so maybe it's smart politics. But there are a
number of good reasons why Clinton should not be secretary of state. Here are five:
1. Hillary Clinton will have her own agenda (as will her husband). She's not a team player and
will bring in a crew of cronies whose chief aim will be to promote the boss, not the
administration. Obama may wake up one day and discover that Hillary has decreed a new "Clinton
Doctrine" of foreign policy.
2. It would be impossible, politically, to fire Hillary. No matter what she says or does, or how
insubordinate, Obama will be stuck with her as long as she wants to stay.
3. Her husband is a walking
conflict of interest. Bill helps a Canadian businessman land a uranium contract in
Kazakhstan, and soon afterwards the businessman contributes to the Clinton Foundation. Bill's
personal and business dealings are embarrassing enough without Hillary heading the State
Department.
4. The Clinton style of management-for example, pitting one faction of staff against
another-would be a disaster at the State Department. Just look at how well it worked on the
campaign trail.
5. And the strongest
strike of all against Hillary as secretary of state... look at who endorses her.

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Media Matters for America -
1 days and 10 hours ago
In a November 17 New York Times
article, Don Van Natta Jr. and Jo Becker reported that in considering whether to nominate
Sen. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, "[t]he Obama transition team is focused on the wide
array of Mr. Clinton's postpresidential activities, some details of which have not been made
public. This list includes the identity of most of the donors to his foundation, the source of
some of his speaking fees -- he has earned as much as $425,000 for a one-hour speech -- and his
work for the billionaire investor Ronald W. Burkle." But Van Natta and Becker did not note that
the source and amount of Bill Clinton's speaking fees are disclosed annually in Hillary Clinton's
Senate disclosure forms -- including a $425,000 speech he delivered on August 14, 2007, for AEG
London, which was listed in Hillary Clinton's 2008
Senate disclosure form.
Though Van Natta and Becker reported that "[s]everal Democrats close to the Clintons said the
former president's activities should not be a disqualifier because the couple had been more open
about their finances than past veterans of the White House, thanks to Senate disclosure
requirements," they did not make clear that Bill Clinton is required to disclose all speaking
fees of $200 or more, according to the
disclosure form. Should Hillary Clinton remain in the Senate, Bill Clinton's 2008 speaking
fees would be included in her 2009 Senate disclosure forms. Should Hillary Clinton become
secretary of state, executive branch
financial disclosure rules would require her, just as the Senate does, to disclose speaking
fees earned by Bill Clinton of $200 or more.
The Times has previously noted that Bill Clinton's speaking fees are disclosed in
Hillary Clinton's disclosure forms. A June 15, 2006,
article reported: "Former President Bill Clinton and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton had
income of more than $8 million last year, mainly from speaking fees Mr. Clinton collected,
according to disclosure forms released by the senator's office yesterday." The article also
reported: "In the senator's disclosure on Tuesday, she and her husband reported having a joint
bank account worth $5 million to $25 million, as well as a blind trust worth $5 million to $25
million. ... One major source of income was the speaking fees Mr. Clinton collected. The
statement showed that he earned more than $7.5 million for 43 speeches that he gave to groups as
varied as the Goldman Sachs Group, the Lancaster, Pa., Chamber of Commerce, the Young Presidents'
Organization and Leading Minds in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates."
From Van Natta and Becker's November 17 article:
The Obama transition team is focused on the wide array of Mr. Clinton's postpresidential
activities, some details of which have not been made public. This list includes the identity of
most of the donors to his foundation, the source of some of his speaking fees -- he has earned as
much as $425,000 for a one-hour speech -- and his work for the billionaire investor Ronald W.
Burkle.
[...]
Several Democrats close to the Clintons said the former president's activities should not be a
disqualifier because the couple had been more open about their finances than past veterans of the
White House, thanks to Senate disclosure requirements.
"They are arguably the most transparent former first couple in history," said one Democratic
official, who declined to be identified because the talks are confidential. "For eight years,
they've been doing this."
Lanny J. Davis, a longtime Clinton friend who said he was not speaking on the couple's behalf,
said he "completely rejects 100 percent" any suggestion that there was a conflict between Mr.
Clinton's work raising money for his foundation and the work Mrs. Clinton would be doing as the
nation's chief diplomat.
When the Clintons released their postpresidency tax returns in April, the documents showed the
couple had earned $109 million after leaving the White House in January 2001. Most of it has come
from book-writing and speaking fees, a sum that accounts for nearly $92 million, including a $15
million advance from Mr. Clinton's best-selling autobiography, "My Life."

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memeorandum -
1 days and 10 hours ago
Glenn Thrush / The Politico:
Hillary could reject State
offer — Hillary Rodham Clinton isn't certain she would accept the
Secretary of State post even if Barack Obama offers it to her, several people close to the former
first lady say. — Press reports that portray Clinton as willing to accept the
job …
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Reuters, International -
1 days and 12 hours ago
If Hillary Clinton is to be picked by Barack Obama as his secretary of state, it may well depend on
a review of the business activities of Bill Clinton.
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memeorandum -
1 days and 18 hours ago
Ben Smith / The Politico:
Cabinet post for Clinton
roils Obamaland — Barack Obama's serious flirtation with his
one-time rival, Hillary Clinton, over the post of secretary of State has been welcomed by
everyone from Henry Kissinger to Bill Clinton as an effective, grand gesture by the
president-elect.
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memeorandum -
1 days and 22 hours ago
New York Times:
Many Dealings of
Bill Clinton Under Review — Over the weekend, former President
Bill Clinton enthusiastically endorsed the prospect that his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham
Clinton, might join the Obama administration as secretary of state. “If he decided to
ask her and they did it together …
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memeorandum -
2 days ago
Michael Goldfarb / Weekly
Standard:
Hail
Clinton — There appears to be little angst among conservatives at
the prospect of Hillary Clinton joining the Obama administration as Secretary of State. The
idea was warmly embraced by Henry Kissinger, who our President-elect seems to hold in
high-esteem, Governor Schwarzenegger …
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reaching out to former rivals to build a broad coalition administration
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